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WordPress 2.9 Upgrade; My Issues

Posted by Mitch on Dec 19, 2009
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Hey, wasn’t it only a couple of weeks ago that we had to upgrade to WordPress 2.8.6? No matter; now it’s time for WordPress 2.9, and I’ll first say I wasn’t necessarily happy about doing it, but I knew I’d have to test it eventually. So, I upgraded my finance blog; here’s where I am with it.

As you know, automatic upgrades don’t work with me, and WP is saying it’s my hosts fault. So be it; I have a FTP, so I went that route with it. The update itself went pretty well. Of course, before you do any update you always deactivate all plugins.

Then I came back and it said I had to upgrade the database, but that took less than 5 seconds after clicking the button. I went into the dashboard to look around, and all looked pretty good.

Now it was time to activate my plugins. And, as it figures, there were problems. The first problem right off the bat is that WordPress 2.9 is supposed to show you more information regarding your plugins and whether they’re compatible or not. I don’t have that, and I can’t find where I’m supposed to activate it, if that’s what you’re supposed to do. I’m already not a happy camper.

I first activated all that I’d had activated beforehand. Many of the items on the dashboard wouldn’t work anymore. I deactivated them all then started doing them one by one. If one worked, I left it alone and went to the next one. When I was finished testing in that fashion, I now have 4 plugins that won’t work with that site that worked before. Well, let me qualify that. Three of them will work, but mess up the admin. The fourth isn’t working, and it’s giving me an error message. That’s irksome, to say the least.

But y’all know I like to be a bit more thorough than that when I can be. So, I deactivated all my plugins except Askimet and CommentLuv; I knew those two were always absolutely safe. Then it was time to test the plugins that supposedly wouldn’t work at all.

The first one I tested is a plugin called WP-Cumulus. If you look at the bottom right of this blog you see that circling tag cloud. I can’t remember who told me about that, but I like it instead of that long list of tags. It was the program where it was giving me all these error messages. On its own, it’s working on that blog, but it took out the information I was getting in the “Other WordPress News” area.

The second one I tested was Twitter Tools, where I only use one of the 4 options you are given. Running it on its own, it does the same as WP-Cumulus.

The third one I tested was Whydowork Adsense, which I had said I removed from all my blogs, but I hadn’t removed it from that one. Once again, on its own, it works just like the two above.

The last one is Limit Login Attempts, which I’ve talked about recently. It did the same thing as the other three; freaky, right?

As a quick test, I decided to try one more thing. I wanted to see how these things worked if I removed CommentLuv. Limit Login Attempts, Whydowork Adsense and WP-Cumulus all work perfectly; Twitter Tools still shuts down Other WordPress News.

What this points out is that it’s not necessarily one plugin that’s messing everything up, but the compatibility between certain plugins that messes stuff up; heck! That means I now have to figure out which plugins I really want, and what stuff I don’t necessarily care about in the dashboard. I have to admit that I’d never seen Other WordPress News on any of my blogs, and now that I see it there’s a lot of good stuff I’d love to be seeing all the time. But that would be the one I’d have to sacrifice to use most of my other plugins, which I am going to use because they help my blog work better. Decisions, decisions.

I decided to leave WP-Cumulus for the time being and add other plugins one by one to see what might still work well. The first one I added back was Feedburner Smith, which of course runs the Feedburner RSS subscription service; works well together.

Then I added the DoFollow plugin, a must if you want to be able to make your blog, well, a dofollow blog, which helps to encourage comment participation. Everything is still perfect.

Next was to add the Webreader plugin, which is also known as Read Speaker. Now is where there’s the compatibility issue; it was good while it lasted. However, for the moment, I remove this plugin to see if the next one will mess with me also.

The one I add back is All In One SEO, and it definitely won’t work with that one. Now I know that it’s not going to play well with the big boys, but I really want AIO SEO. So I remove WP-Cumulus, only to discover that I still don’t have Other WordPress News. So, that one’s about to be the odd man out, because I need to get many of my plugins back onto that blog.

Back goes CommentLuv. Back goes Google XML Sitesmap. Back goes Limit Login Attempts. Back goes NoSelf Pings, which I’ve never written about, but it works great if you do a lot of internal linking, which I do, and keeps you from pinging yourself all the time.

I add Subscribe To Comments back, and now I have an issue. It takes out the Plugins category in the Dashboard. I want that, so I remove it for the time being and push forward.

I add back Webreader. I add back Twitter Tools; heck, that took out both Plugins and WordPress Development Blog. Nope, I want those, so I remove it for the moment.

On a fluke I decide to see what happens if I load Broken Link Checker. It takes out everything, but finds two broken links. I’ll come back to the links later, but this one easily gets removed again.

I add back WP-Cumulus. I add back Whydowork Adsense. All is pretty okay.

This leaves me with two plugins I want that don’t play well with others; Subscribe To Comments and Twitter Tools. And I’m stuck. People have to be able to subscribe to comments, otherwise why would they leave a comment? That’s the problem with having an older theme, no matter how cool it is. So, for now, it’s there, and I lose those Dashboard things. And since I’ve lost those, Twitter Tools is also back, as I also feel I need that one.

The message here is that it just might be the theme that’s messing you up as much as the plugin; what a drag. Still, I hope all this testing I’ve done helps you out with your blog.

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Good afternoon, Mitch.

That’s a lot of work, my friend, just to get a blog to work as well as it did just before upgrading.

You’ve pointed out the pitfalls related to all the plug-ins, themes, and other features that make WordPress so popular.

It can be very flexible and there are many ways to customize what it does for you, but it can be time consuming and frustrating behind the scenes trying to get everything working together.

It’s one of the reasons I’m leaving blogging behind. Not the major factor, but certainly a big contributor.

Act on your dream!

JD
John Dilbeck´s last blog ..I will be moving away from blogging in 2010 My ComLuv Profile

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Mitch Reply:

And it’s not over, John, but I think I’ve latched onto something big. Seems that the one plugin that’s messing everything up, the one I thought would be solid, is All In One SEO. As soon as I deactivated it, everything came back. I deactivated it on this blog and everything came back. Phenomenal! I’d been thinking about getting rid of that one for awhile now, and now I have a good reason to do it.

And, as I said on your blog, still hate to see you leaving blogging behind.

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Dennis Edell Reply:

Whoa wait, leaving it behind; what the…did I miss something?
Dennis Edell´s last blog ..UPDATED – Pick My New Domain Names With A chance To Win $10! My ComLuv Profile

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Mitch Reply:

Yes you did; you need to go to John’s site and read his latest post.

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Dennis Edell Reply:

I did right after, meant to come back here. Now that’s an eye opener, huh.
Dennis Edell´s last blog ..The $10 Winner And More Good News….. My ComLuv Profile

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Mitch Reply:

It is, but I actually kind of understand. Not that I’m going that route, mind you, but finding the time to concentrate on something that’s your livelihood and doing other things as well sometimes can be challenging.

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December 19th, 2009 | 4:14 PM

Good evening, Mitch.

I’m a bit surprised that the All in One SEO plug-in is causing problems. As you said, it’s been solid for me, but I stopped upgrading WordPress a few months back.

Now my main task (regarding the blogs) is to go through them and find the best posts and move them to other sites where they fit well.

I don’t know how long I’ll leave the blogs up before shutting them down next year, but I think it will be sooner rather than later.

As you know, life tends to have a way of getting in the way of the plans we make, so I guess I’ll have to wing it.

Actually, Mitch, I feel some relief now that I’ve made my decision. I’m going to close some of my other sites, too.

I’m trying my best to focus on what is working for me and ignoring everything else, at least for awhile.

Act on your dream!

JD
John Dilbeck´s last blog ..Site Build It Annual Buy One Get One Free Holiday Special My ComLuv Profile

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Mitch Reply:

As long as you stick with what you said, which is that you’d be keeping in touch with us, then it’ll be all good. ;)

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December 19th, 2009 | 7:02 PM

Hi Mitch,

Here’s your new blog follower :)

I see there’s a problem with your plugins when you activate it after upgrading wordpress.

I have also experienced the same and I figured it out why. The reason turns out to be from the layout or theme that I have. So I installed another theme, if you look at my blog it’s simpler. Upgrading wordpress has no problem at all and I don’t even have to turn of my plugins when upgrading.

And about the upgrading WP, you said it’s because of your host. How about switching to another host? It’s just a friendly suggestion if you don’t mind :)

Anyways, thanks for your review or issue as you said.

Best reagards,

Jp Manching @ Beginners Blogging Guide
Jp Manching @ Beginners Blogging Guide´s last blog ..Blog Priorities 3: Whom to Blog My ComLuv Profile

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Mitch Reply:

Hi JP, and welcome to the community.

If there’s one thing to know about me, it’s that I don’t change stuff willingly if it’s been treating me well. I like the theme I have here, probably because of the red part at the top, and I’m just not in the mood to change themes. I couldn’t say that about the themes I had for my other blogs until relatively recently.

Same with my host. I’ve been with them 4 years now, and except for a blip in service in August 2008, when it seemed like I had all sorts of issues, I’ve never had any problems with them and their customer service has been supreme; can’t think of a reason why I’d give them up either.

I’m stubborn like that. I haven’t changed cell phone companies since I got my first in 1995, though the company has changed hands 3 times. They haven’t irked me enough to leave. But I did change banks in 2004 after belonging to my one bank for almost 30 years when they did finally irk me. This shows that, sometimes, it takes a lot to get me to leave something behind. :-)

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Jp Manching @ Beginners Blogging Guide Reply:

Hi,

You-are-amazing Mitch, you just don’t give up on things easily. I see you are so loyal to things that you started trusting since before.

I like the attitude that you have :)

Jp Manching
Jp Manching @ Beginners Blogging Guide´s last blog ..No Commentator? Then be the Commentator My ComLuv Profile

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Mitch Reply:

Thanks JP. Loyalty is one of my big 3 rules.

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December 20th, 2009 | 7:57 AM

EEk, what issues you’re having. I have not upgraded yet and now I’m also scared to do so. This sounds like it is going to be a big job for hubby to get the plugins to work. Last time he upgraded me he had to make some adjustments.
Rose´s last blog ..Body jewelry- Bejeweled Plugs for your Willie My ComLuv Profile

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Mitch Reply:

Well Rose, the issue is upgrade and worry about losing plugins or don’t upgrade and worry about someone hacking and trashing your blog. Frankly, that’s become kind of an easy answer for me, though it’s irritating to keep having to do it every couple of weeks, so it seems.

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December 20th, 2009 | 12:53 PM

If history is an indication, I may just wait ’till 3.0 lol
Dennis Edell´s last blog ..UPDATED – Pick My New Domain Names With A chance To Win $10! My ComLuv Profile

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Mitch Reply:

Just make sure you don’t get yourself hacked, Dennis. You do have lots of visitors after all.

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December 20th, 2009 | 6:44 PM

Thanks for the heads up Mitch on the upgrade. I never dump when the new release comes out unless they are pushing it as a security release, like WP 2.8.2 whatchumacallit. LOL I have the All In One plugin too, so I will look out for the next update before I upgrade. Thanks for sharing!
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Mitch Reply:

Glad to see you stop by, Monique. Yeah, these plugins and updates are something else, but when they work, they make life so easy.

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December 21st, 2009 | 12:34 PM

Yup, WordPress has been actively upgrading. Themes for instance like mag theme and plugin has gone crazy lol. Now if there’s another update, I think ill ignore it. Mitch, what do u think, to update or no no
Charleston´s last blog ..BeautifulPeople.com- Site Only For Beautiful People My ComLuv Profile

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Mitch Reply:

Charleston, I think you determine how comfortable you feel with your security. I was feeling great until I started hearing about a lot of people suddenly getting their blogs hacked, and I upgraded to 2.8.4 at the time. This one is an interesting change because they took away some aesthetic things I’d gotten used to, but they said it was more secure. That’s the big deal for me.

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December 21st, 2009 | 12:44 PM

I like that Penguin Party Vinyl Shower Shower Curtain. lol
Rose´s last blog ..House of Chaos- My Stressful life My ComLuv Profile

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Mitch Reply:

Thanks Rose; I kind of like it myself. Unfortunately, I have shower doors. lol

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December 22nd, 2009 | 12:54 AM

Luckily, I don’t face any issue after upgrade so far. ;)
Jayce´s last blog ..How to hack Facebook account profile My ComLuv Profile

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Mitch Reply:

Some people are just lucky, Jayce. I do tend to have my moments, though.

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December 23rd, 2009 | 8:23 AM

Boy am I lucky so far so good, I’ve got absolutely no issues whatsoever with 2.9. Version 2.9.1 will soon be out and
hopefully it could help fix some of the issues you’re experiencing @ the moment.
Udegbunam Chukwudi´s last blog ..Hostgator Hosted Blogs Run Faster With Wp-SuperCache My ComLuv Profile

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Mitch Reply:

Udegbunam, I think the latest version is about security issues again. It will be interesting to see where it all goes later on.

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Udegbunam Chukwudi Reply:

I hear it mainly has to do with missed scheduled posts.

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December 25th, 2009 | 1:32 PM
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