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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
		<link>http://www.imjustsharing.com/is-the-dream-a-fraud/#comment-5179</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 02:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be nice, but to tell you the truth, I&#039;m not sure I want to be in the position to have to manage quite that many sites, if you know what I mean.  I had a friend of mine ask me today what product I&#039;d created on my own for my medical billing site, and of course I haven&#039;t created one yet.  Something I need to think about, that&#039;s for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:left; margin-right:10px; display:block; width:60px' ><img alt='' src='http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f2ff4f94ec27c4647b7000767ce55d6b?s=60&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif%3Fs%3D60&amp;r=PG' class='avatar avatar-60 photo' height='60' width='60' /></span>That would be nice, but to tell you the truth, I&#8217;m not sure I want to be in the position to have to manage quite that many sites, if you know what I mean.  I had a friend of mine ask me today what product I&#8217;d created on my own for my medical billing site, and of course I haven&#8217;t created one yet.  Something I need to think about, that&#8217;s for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
		<link>http://www.imjustsharing.com/is-the-dream-a-fraud/#comment-5178</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 02:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True Dennis, a little common sense does go a long way.  But so many people see this thing about making money on the internet, and they just don&#039;t know.  And it sounds really good.  This seminar I went to (my wife wanted to go) had all these people who talked how they were making all this big time money monthly, and to some that sounds really good.  Luckily, I knew better, but many of them just don&#039;t, because they really don&#039;t know that much about the internet to begin with, which is the really scary part.

And, of course, it&#039;s easy for us to say they should know more, but look at what&#039;s happened with the stock market, with people who supposedly &quot;know&quot;; not always so simple, unfortunately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:left; margin-right:10px; display:block; width:60px' ><img alt='' src='http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f2ff4f94ec27c4647b7000767ce55d6b?s=60&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif%3Fs%3D60&amp;r=PG' class='avatar avatar-60 photo' height='60' width='60' /></span>True Dennis, a little common sense does go a long way.  But so many people see this thing about making money on the internet, and they just don&#8217;t know.  And it sounds really good.  This seminar I went to (my wife wanted to go) had all these people who talked how they were making all this big time money monthly, and to some that sounds really good.  Luckily, I knew better, but many of them just don&#8217;t, because they really don&#8217;t know that much about the internet to begin with, which is the really scary part.</p>
<p>And, of course, it&#8217;s easy for us to say they should know more, but look at what&#8217;s happened with the stock market, with people who supposedly &#8220;know&#8221;; not always so simple, unfortunately.</p>
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		<title>By: Boyz II Men</title>
		<link>http://www.imjustsharing.com/is-the-dream-a-fraud/#comment-5175</link>
		<dc:creator>Boyz II Men</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 01:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha thanks for the compliments Mitch!

Your description of your friend is something I&#039;ve been weighing the option of a lot. If you can get a large quantity of sites that all do a small amount of earnings monthly, it adds up. I feel like it&#039;s easier to get a site to 30$ a month than 300$, and so, it might be better to just get ten sites to the smaller level. Still, it is heartening to hear of his success and hopefully, we&#039;ll be able to one day reach that point.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Boyz II Men´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rnbhaven.com/90s-music/feature/Case_Interview_Part_1/17&quot;&gt;Chasing the Dream: The Case Story&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:left; margin-right:10px; display:block; width:60px' ><a rel='external' href='http://www.rnbhaven.com/90s-music/artists/Boyz-II-Men/10'><img alt='' src='http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/bb828b4853d1c15810af37168f53896f?s=60&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif%3Fs%3D60&amp;r=PG' class='avatar avatar-60 photo' height='60' width='60' /></a></span>Haha thanks for the compliments Mitch!</p>
<p>Your description of your friend is something I&#8217;ve been weighing the option of a lot. If you can get a large quantity of sites that all do a small amount of earnings monthly, it adds up. I feel like it&#8217;s easier to get a site to 30$ a month than 300$, and so, it might be better to just get ten sites to the smaller level. Still, it is heartening to hear of his success and hopefully, we&#8217;ll be able to one day reach that point.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Boyz II Men´s last blog post..<a href="http://www.rnbhaven.com/90s-music/feature/Case_Interview_Part_1/17">Chasing the Dream: The Case Story</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Edell</title>
		<link>http://www.imjustsharing.com/is-the-dream-a-fraud/#comment-5174</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Edell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 00:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it sounded harsh, I apologize. Perhaps I&#039;ve been in it longer, who knows.

It&#039;s always more the fault of the scammer then those being scammed, and I too never want to see dreams die; but a little common sense does go a long way

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dennis Edell´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.directsaleswebmarketing.com/do-you-charge-for-blog-reviews/&quot;&gt;Do You Charge For Blog Reviews?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:left; margin-right:10px; display:block; width:60px' ><a rel='external' href='http://www.directsaleswebmarketing.com/'><img alt='' src='http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/a68d687845bbcf9149d2b34cca99e9c0?s=60&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif%3Fs%3D60&amp;r=PG' class='avatar avatar-60 photo' height='60' width='60' /></a></span>If it sounded harsh, I apologize. Perhaps I&#8217;ve been in it longer, who knows.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always more the fault of the scammer then those being scammed, and I too never want to see dreams die; but a little common sense does go a long way</p>
<p><abbr><em>Dennis Edell´s last blog post..<a href="http://www.directsaleswebmarketing.com/do-you-charge-for-blog-reviews/">Do You Charge For Blog Reviews?</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
		<link>http://www.imjustsharing.com/is-the-dream-a-fraud/#comment-5173</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that&#039;s pretty unfair and harsh, Dennis.  The reality is that most people don&#039;t make a living at internet marketing, and of that &quot;most&quot; probably at lest half never make a dime.  People get sold a bill of goods across the board, and sometimes it sounds really good, but the downsides aren&#039;t as well known.  I&#039;ve written in the past about being in this large room of internet dreamers who ponied up $2,400 to &quot;own&quot; 10 websites and to also pay a high monthly fee for maintenance, all because they believed it was going to be their new career.  I don&#039;t think that&#039;s moaning; I think it&#039;s a warning to most people that it&#039;s not really going to happen the way they expect it will.

As for your last point, I disagree with that one also, but not totally.  Obviously each person&#039;s level of success will be different, but I truly believe that not everyone gets all the information they really need to even have a fair shot at it.  I&#039;ve also talked about that here on this blog, on how one never really knows who to trust, whose books or program to purchase, etc.  The &quot;dream&quot; itself has nothing to do with whether people wake up or not; I don&#039;t want anyone to ever give up on a dream like that.  But there&#039;s a dose of reality that many people don&#039;t get until they&#039;ve spent a lot of money on the wrong thing; I&#039;m hoping to help people see that they have to be ready for down times, and a steep learning curve.  That goes for me as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:left; margin-right:10px; display:block; width:60px' ><img alt='' src='http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f2ff4f94ec27c4647b7000767ce55d6b?s=60&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif%3Fs%3D60&amp;r=PG' class='avatar avatar-60 photo' height='60' width='60' /></span>I think that&#8217;s pretty unfair and harsh, Dennis.  The reality is that most people don&#8217;t make a living at internet marketing, and of that &#8220;most&#8221; probably at lest half never make a dime.  People get sold a bill of goods across the board, and sometimes it sounds really good, but the downsides aren&#8217;t as well known.  I&#8217;ve written in the past about being in this large room of internet dreamers who ponied up $2,400 to &#8220;own&#8221; 10 websites and to also pay a high monthly fee for maintenance, all because they believed it was going to be their new career.  I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s moaning; I think it&#8217;s a warning to most people that it&#8217;s not really going to happen the way they expect it will.</p>
<p>As for your last point, I disagree with that one also, but not totally.  Obviously each person&#8217;s level of success will be different, but I truly believe that not everyone gets all the information they really need to even have a fair shot at it.  I&#8217;ve also talked about that here on this blog, on how one never really knows who to trust, whose books or program to purchase, etc.  The &#8220;dream&#8221; itself has nothing to do with whether people wake up or not; I don&#8217;t want anyone to ever give up on a dream like that.  But there&#8217;s a dose of reality that many people don&#8217;t get until they&#8217;ve spent a lot of money on the wrong thing; I&#8217;m hoping to help people see that they have to be ready for down times, and a steep learning curve.  That goes for me as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Edell</title>
		<link>http://www.imjustsharing.com/is-the-dream-a-fraud/#comment-5172</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Edell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A whole lotta moanin&#039; goin&#039; on here, huh?

It&#039;s a well known fact that 95% of all infomercials are full or crap playing on the weaknesses of the masses. 

It also should be a lot more well known that &quot;cookie cutter tmplates&quot; are useless. This is the main problem with most DS/MLM companies - I keep warning reps, to build their own on top of or instead of, the freebies given to them.

As for &quot;the dream&quot;, that&#039;s up to each individual to wake up and do what they can/when they can. Each persons dream or success level is different.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dennis Edell´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.directsaleswebmarketing.com/do-you-charge-for-blog-reviews/&quot;&gt;Do You Charge For Blog Reviews?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:left; margin-right:10px; display:block; width:60px' ><a rel='external' href='http://www.directsaleswebmarketing.com/'><img alt='' src='http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/a68d687845bbcf9149d2b34cca99e9c0?s=60&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif%3Fs%3D60&amp;r=PG' class='avatar avatar-60 photo' height='60' width='60' /></a></span>A whole lotta moanin&#8217; goin&#8217; on here, huh?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a well known fact that 95% of all infomercials are full or crap playing on the weaknesses of the masses. </p>
<p>It also should be a lot more well known that &#8220;cookie cutter tmplates&#8221; are useless. This is the main problem with most DS/MLM companies &#8211; I keep warning reps, to build their own on top of or instead of, the freebies given to them.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;the dream&#8221;, that&#8217;s up to each individual to wake up and do what they can/when they can. Each persons dream or success level is different.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Dennis Edell´s last blog post..<a href="http://www.directsaleswebmarketing.com/do-you-charge-for-blog-reviews/">Do You Charge For Blog Reviews?</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
		<link>http://www.imjustsharing.com/is-the-dream-a-fraud/#comment-5170</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly.  But the other side of the equation is that they all didn&#039;t start at the top, so it means we may still have a chance, if one of us ever gets that lucky break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:left; margin-right:10px; display:block; width:60px' ><img alt='' src='http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f2ff4f94ec27c4647b7000767ce55d6b?s=60&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif%3Fs%3D60&amp;r=PG' class='avatar avatar-60 photo' height='60' width='60' /></span>Exactly.  But the other side of the equation is that they all didn&#8217;t start at the top, so it means we may still have a chance, if one of us ever gets that lucky break.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
		<link>http://www.imjustsharing.com/is-the-dream-a-fraud/#comment-5169</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Matt,

First, I&#039;d like to, possibly, clarify something John said.  He didn&#039;t say give up on the dream; he basically said it&#039;s more of a job, like any other, and that a living could be made.  For instance, I have a friend who has over 100 websites.  Each one earns at least $30 a month, some way more.  That means he makes at least $30,000 a year from his websites.  However, I know he&#039;s making closer to $75,000 a year from the web.  And when you think about it, most of them he&#039;s put up, then he may check them once every 3 months just to make sure the links work.  Some he may work more often, but that&#039;s about it.  His cost then is around $900 a year for the domain names and, maybe $10 a month for hosting.  That&#039;s not a bad investment, but of course it took a lot of time to put them all together.  Still, what that income does for him, and it&#039;s pretty passive income now, is allow him to pick and choose offline projects and jobs that he wants to do, rather than has to do, and he does have a very nice career with another company that actually allows him to spend most of his time online.  Now, it&#039;s something I&#039;m kind of keeping in the back of my mind as my medical billing site, which made me $70 last month in Adsense money, is already over $50 this month with more than half a month to go.  Imagine if I could tap into something like that some more times, eh?

Having said that, your website now it pretty neat, and if you figure out how to optimize it better and get some paid advertising, which I believe it deserves, you could be on your way.  Your site is way more interesting than anything Perez Hilton could have ever put together, I&#039;ll tell you that.  :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:left; margin-right:10px; display:block; width:60px' ><img alt='' src='http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/f2ff4f94ec27c4647b7000767ce55d6b?s=60&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif%3Fs%3D60&amp;r=PG' class='avatar avatar-60 photo' height='60' width='60' /></span>Hi Matt,</p>
<p>First, I&#8217;d like to, possibly, clarify something John said.  He didn&#8217;t say give up on the dream; he basically said it&#8217;s more of a job, like any other, and that a living could be made.  For instance, I have a friend who has over 100 websites.  Each one earns at least $30 a month, some way more.  That means he makes at least $30,000 a year from his websites.  However, I know he&#8217;s making closer to $75,000 a year from the web.  And when you think about it, most of them he&#8217;s put up, then he may check them once every 3 months just to make sure the links work.  Some he may work more often, but that&#8217;s about it.  His cost then is around $900 a year for the domain names and, maybe $10 a month for hosting.  That&#8217;s not a bad investment, but of course it took a lot of time to put them all together.  Still, what that income does for him, and it&#8217;s pretty passive income now, is allow him to pick and choose offline projects and jobs that he wants to do, rather than has to do, and he does have a very nice career with another company that actually allows him to spend most of his time online.  Now, it&#8217;s something I&#8217;m kind of keeping in the back of my mind as my medical billing site, which made me $70 last month in Adsense money, is already over $50 this month with more than half a month to go.  Imagine if I could tap into something like that some more times, eh?</p>
<p>Having said that, your website now it pretty neat, and if you figure out how to optimize it better and get some paid advertising, which I believe it deserves, you could be on your way.  Your site is way more interesting than anything Perez Hilton could have ever put together, I&#8217;ll tell you that.  <img src='http://www.imjustsharing.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Boyz II Men</title>
		<link>http://www.imjustsharing.com/is-the-dream-a-fraud/#comment-5163</link>
		<dc:creator>Boyz II Men</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your mention of the super affiliates is something I&#039;ve thought about for a while now. I feel like they have their elite network which collaborates together to essentially &quot;keep the money in the family.&quot;

So all of those top sites can sneeze and they&#039;ll make money because they&#039;ll quickly get the endorsements of one another.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Boyz II Men´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rnbhaven.com/90s-music/feature/Case_Interview_Part_1/17&quot;&gt;Chasing the Dream: The Case Story&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:left; margin-right:10px; display:block; width:60px' ><a rel='external' href='http://www.rnbhaven.com/90s-music/artists/Boyz-II-Men/10'><img alt='' src='http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/bb828b4853d1c15810af37168f53896f?s=60&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif%3Fs%3D60&amp;r=PG' class='avatar avatar-60 photo' height='60' width='60' /></a></span>Your mention of the super affiliates is something I&#8217;ve thought about for a while now. I feel like they have their elite network which collaborates together to essentially &#8220;keep the money in the family.&#8221;</p>
<p>So all of those top sites can sneeze and they&#8217;ll make money because they&#8217;ll quickly get the endorsements of one another.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Boyz II Men´s last blog post..<a href="http://www.rnbhaven.com/90s-music/feature/Case_Interview_Part_1/17">Chasing the Dream: The Case Story</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Boyz II Men</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boyz II Men</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mitch, you really did a great job here of identifying the elephant in the room. This is an issue that I&#039;ve been dealing with a lot and I think John did a great job of hitting most of the points on the head.

The biggest factors that he mentioned that I agree with is that it might be possible, but it&#039;s hardly passive income. Working on the web is draining and while you might be able to let a site sit on its own and make money, it&#039;s going to lose value quickly and your paychecks will shrink. The other great point John made is the fact that you can still make money online, but you&#039;re likely going to be selling yourself a lot shorter than what you COULD be making if you didn&#039;t work online.

It&#039;s these two ideas that have really made me shy away some from the dream of an internet empire covered in gold. I&#039;ve noticed over time that most ventures I make fail miserably, and the worst part is, I can&#039;t see any difference between the ones I launch that are successful, and the ones that fail completely.

I do agree though that I think some of the affiliate site boasts are a lie, as there would be a lot more press on it if all these people were making millions of dollars a year.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Boyz II Men´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rnbhaven.com/90s-music/feature/Case_Interview_Part_1/17&quot;&gt;Chasing the Dream: The Case Story&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:left; margin-right:10px; display:block; width:60px' ><a rel='external' href='http://www.rnbhaven.com/90s-music/artists/Boyz-II-Men/10'><img alt='' src='http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/bb828b4853d1c15810af37168f53896f?s=60&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif%3Fs%3D60&amp;r=PG' class='avatar avatar-60 photo' height='60' width='60' /></a></span>Mitch, you really did a great job here of identifying the elephant in the room. This is an issue that I&#8217;ve been dealing with a lot and I think John did a great job of hitting most of the points on the head.</p>
<p>The biggest factors that he mentioned that I agree with is that it might be possible, but it&#8217;s hardly passive income. Working on the web is draining and while you might be able to let a site sit on its own and make money, it&#8217;s going to lose value quickly and your paychecks will shrink. The other great point John made is the fact that you can still make money online, but you&#8217;re likely going to be selling yourself a lot shorter than what you COULD be making if you didn&#8217;t work online.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s these two ideas that have really made me shy away some from the dream of an internet empire covered in gold. I&#8217;ve noticed over time that most ventures I make fail miserably, and the worst part is, I can&#8217;t see any difference between the ones I launch that are successful, and the ones that fail completely.</p>
<p>I do agree though that I think some of the affiliate site boasts are a lie, as there would be a lot more press on it if all these people were making millions of dollars a year.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Boyz II Men´s last blog post..<a href="http://www.rnbhaven.com/90s-music/feature/Case_Interview_Part_1/17">Chasing the Dream: The Case Story</a></em></abbr></p>
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