Comments on: Do We Hate Marketing So Much That,…

By: Mitch

Mitch — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:56:23 +0000

Thanks for sharing that, Christian. I think that, overall, it proves that everything isn’t right for everybody. The big time bloggers are always going to get new people coming, but at a certain point those who visit often will get sick of seeing that stuff and stop coming. I know I’ve done that; luckily, I can see every post through my blog reader, where those things don’t come up.

By: Christian Scherbel

Christian Scherbel — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:34:57 +0000

My experience is that popups and popunders do indeed drive up your conversion but your recommendation ratio really drops deep. We had long discussions whether to use popup and popunders with our website or not and since we stopped using these techniques our conversion to email subscribers fell a few percent but the PIs/UV really made up for it. So we are earning more money thanks to modest oldschool banner ads.

By: Sire

Sire — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:51:14 +0000

I know, I just felt like stating the obvious
.-= Sire´s last blog ..Sire’s So Stupid =-.

By: Mitch

Mitch — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:08:36 +0000

I don’t think I miss that one, Sire. It’s figuring out how to get all that traffic that we’re missing. Then again, I wrote on that also, if you remember.

By: Sire

Sire — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:58:11 +0000

The one thing that we’re missing, that is limiting any potential from making money is traffic. We get that up and the money making potential will also increase.
.-= Sire´s last blog ..Getting Paid For Reviews That Have The No Follow Attribute =-.

By: Mitch

Mitch — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:43:33 +0000

I’ve been to pages like that, Brian, where you scroll down and this box follows you everywhere and just won’t leave you alone. I can’t believe someone wouldn’t find that sort of thing irritating if they were visiting another person’s page. But you’re right, the marketers swear they work, even John Chow in his video.

By: Brian D. Hawkins

Brian D. Hawkins — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:48:17 +0000

Well Mitch, this on one of the best subjects I’ve seen in a while. For me it’s like being torn between the blogger and marketer parts of me. I don’t use popups and such because I know it’s irritating to most of us. At the same time I know that marketing is all about conversions and the stats always prove they work. Myself, I try to leave it off my blogs but wouldn’t think twice about using them on a sales page or even niche sites.

It’s just a coincidence but just about an hour ago I was on a very big marketers site and I left very frustrated from one of those popups that don’t let you leave. You know the ones that make you click a button to leave the page? She had it setup where you couldn’t even maneuver within her site without going through that every time you clicked an internal link. Very frustrating.
.-= Brian D. Hawkins´s last blog ..Just Ask – Article Marketing And Site Promotion =-.

By: Mitch

Mitch — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:43:05 +0000

I’ll admit that I signed up for TTZ Media because of his recommendation, before I knew that it’s actually his company. They’re not bad ads, but they’ve never generated many clicks, and no sales, which is why I’ve moved them elsewhere.

You’re right, though, all the popups and popunders are irritating.

By: Sire

Sire — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:06:26 +0000

Those ads have always annoyed me on his site and is probably the one reason I don’t visit as often as I could.

As to the reason why he does so well. Like other well known bloggers, Darren Rowse and co, he has built up a certain amount of credibility as far as blogging for money, and so he is able to convert a lot of his visitors into customers as they hope to make their own blogging money.
.-= Sire´s last blog ..Sire’s So Stupid =-.

By: Mirjam

Mirjam — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:42:34 +0000

aaaaah….. now I see why you aren´t fond of CB, thought it was because of the products LOL You know, I never had that sensation, although I know there is one particular product that has received a lot of my visitors but hasn´t made me any commission while I am sure people have bought it, but I think that is mainly because they turned around and bought it through their own link. But for the rest of the CB products I promote, they are doing pretty well, so maybe it is about the particular products as well.

As for the not doing what i don´t want to be done to me, that doesn´t only go for my internet business but for life in general.

I just felt it was an interesting point you made there, one that got me thinking.
.-= Mirjam´s last blog ..The Keyword Academy – The Missing Link! =-.